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	<title>Comments on: Part 1: Data Compression vs. Sound Compression (Producer Speak)</title>
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		<title>By: digiego</title>
		<link>http://blog.fixyourmix.com/2009/data-compression-vs-soun-compression-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1423</link>
		<dc:creator>digiego</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Jun 2009 23:44:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hey mr keith,
you forgot to mention lossless formats specific to audio, such as flac, ape, and the recent mp3hd (same extension *.mp3, but combining both lossless and lossy versions in a single file, ie. playable on ipods as lossy mp3).
peace</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hey mr keith,<br />
you forgot to mention lossless formats specific to audio, such as flac, ape, and the recent mp3hd (same extension *.mp3, but combining both lossless and lossy versions in a single file, ie. playable on ipods as lossy mp3).<br />
peace</p>
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		<title>By: Brian</title>
		<link>http://blog.fixyourmix.com/2009/data-compression-vs-soun-compression-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-1219</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 May 2009 15:15:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>One thing I often wonder, and am reminded of reading this article is this: As I am about 20 years old and have spent about half my life listening to the majority of my music on mp3, does this effect how I hear and evaluate sound when I am mixing. It may change my expectation and my concept of what things should sound like particularly when it comes to high freequency content in mixes. I would also take this a little further to say that since I have done the majority of my music listening on earphones, and bad IPOD ones at that for the majority of my life (purely due to circumstance) will this change my approach i.e. I may not like too much bottom end in mixes as I don&#039;t hear it so much in my earphones etc. 

This mp3/portable earphone music player gransition may have a similar impact to the change from vynal to CD. As vynal physically couldn&#039;t allow alot of bottom end due to the cutting of the actual physical waveform into the vynal, that effected how mix engineers approached things. I&#039;m not sure if it is due to my largely earphone based listening experience, or my love of 1990 albums like Nirvana&#039;s nevermind and Radiohead&#039;s ok computer, but I do think modern music is becoming bass heavy, often to a negative effect. 
p.s. apolagies for the long comment, its my first time coming across this site, I love it, and I had alot to say on this subject!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>One thing I often wonder, and am reminded of reading this article is this: As I am about 20 years old and have spent about half my life listening to the majority of my music on mp3, does this effect how I hear and evaluate sound when I am mixing. It may change my expectation and my concept of what things should sound like particularly when it comes to high freequency content in mixes. I would also take this a little further to say that since I have done the majority of my music listening on earphones, and bad IPOD ones at that for the majority of my life (purely due to circumstance) will this change my approach i.e. I may not like too much bottom end in mixes as I don&#8217;t hear it so much in my earphones etc. </p>
<p>This mp3/portable earphone music player gransition may have a similar impact to the change from vynal to CD. As vynal physically couldn&#8217;t allow alot of bottom end due to the cutting of the actual physical waveform into the vynal, that effected how mix engineers approached things. I&#8217;m not sure if it is due to my largely earphone based listening experience, or my love of 1990 albums like Nirvana&#8217;s nevermind and Radiohead&#8217;s ok computer, but I do think modern music is becoming bass heavy, often to a negative effect.<br />
p.s. apolagies for the long comment, its my first time coming across this site, I love it, and I had alot to say on this subject!</p>
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		<title>By: phil</title>
		<link>http://blog.fixyourmix.com/2009/data-compression-vs-soun-compression-pt-1/comment-page-1/#comment-15</link>
		<dc:creator>phil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 22:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Here is a nifty little site that does some spectral comparisons of uncompressed and lossy-compressed data files.  

http://www.avisoft.com/compression.htm

Lossy compression algorithms vary across the board, but they all function primarily by attempting to reduce file size by reducing the fidelity or removing altogether parts of the audio spectrum deemed unnoticeable to the human ear.  For example, this is sometimes accomplished by decreasing bit-depth at ultra high frequencies or frequencies that are masked by big sounds.  Reducing bit depth can contribute to distortions and unwanted harmonics as waveforms become more step-wise in their formation.

Aside from that, we all know, the human ear can &quot;perceive&quot; much more than it can &quot;hear&quot; so even the best lossy compression has some tangible effect on sonic quality and therefore is built on a faulty premise.  

The real question becomes whether or not that change in sonic quality is enough to damn the compression algorithm altogether.  The increasing trajectory of .mp3 files toward becoming the standard format would indicate that the loss of fidelity is not significant to the market on the whole.

Similarly, distortions in spectral content are not always a bad thing.  The aural exciter is an example of people adding selective harmonic distortion and enjoying the consequences in so-called professional &quot;hi-fi&quot; audio circumstances.  The problem with lossy data compression algorithms is that the spurious harmonic additions tend to be random and therefore the outcomes are unpredictable; whereas the aural exciter has a fairly uniform end result.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Here is a nifty little site that does some spectral comparisons of uncompressed and lossy-compressed data files.  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.avisoft.com/compression.htm" rel="nofollow" onclick="pageTracker._trackPageview('/outgoing/www.avisoft.com/compression.htm?referer=');">http://www.avisoft.com/compression.htm</a></p>
<p>Lossy compression algorithms vary across the board, but they all function primarily by attempting to reduce file size by reducing the fidelity or removing altogether parts of the audio spectrum deemed unnoticeable to the human ear.  For example, this is sometimes accomplished by decreasing bit-depth at ultra high frequencies or frequencies that are masked by big sounds.  Reducing bit depth can contribute to distortions and unwanted harmonics as waveforms become more step-wise in their formation.</p>
<p>Aside from that, we all know, the human ear can &#8220;perceive&#8221; much more than it can &#8220;hear&#8221; so even the best lossy compression has some tangible effect on sonic quality and therefore is built on a faulty premise.  </p>
<p>The real question becomes whether or not that change in sonic quality is enough to damn the compression algorithm altogether.  The increasing trajectory of .mp3 files toward becoming the standard format would indicate that the loss of fidelity is not significant to the market on the whole.</p>
<p>Similarly, distortions in spectral content are not always a bad thing.  The aural exciter is an example of people adding selective harmonic distortion and enjoying the consequences in so-called professional &#8220;hi-fi&#8221; audio circumstances.  The problem with lossy data compression algorithms is that the spurious harmonic additions tend to be random and therefore the outcomes are unpredictable; whereas the aural exciter has a fairly uniform end result.</p>
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		<title>By: charles</title>
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		<dc:creator>charles</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:21:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>so then how exactly does data compression of the lossy variety change the sound?  can you give examples?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>so then how exactly does data compression of the lossy variety change the sound?  can you give examples?</p>
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